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Episode 28 · 10 months ago

Autumn Grabeel- The Big Announcement

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Talent manager and wife of the host, Autumn Grabeel, reveals a big secret announcement. She tells the story of meeting Eric Baines on the High School Musical Concert Tour. She reveals some of the ups and downs of dating a working musician. She reflects on hearing her singing voice on a recording for the first time while making Christmas music with her husband.

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If you are a fan of the dive Ar RocksStar podcast and would like to help support the show, there's a great waythat you can do that and start a new fashion trend. We have a newmerchandise page on the website, which features t shirts and hoodies that areavailable for sale on Amazon, just click on merchandise, ind, the top menuand all of the links will be there or go directly to dive Ar rockstarcommerchandise, get started early on your Christmas shopping at Divar,rockstarcom. Welcome to the Di Ar Rock Star podcast,the show exploring the lives of professional musicians of all typestouring, musicians, recording artist, songwriters engineers, bar bands,wedding bands and anyone making their living in the music industry, whetheryou've dreamed of being a professional or you already are one. This is thepodcast for you, I'm your host Eric Banes, and I hope that you not onlyfind some entertainment here, but also some helpful tips, trade secrets andideas that will help you achieve your dreams. Well, it's kind of a beetle week.weirdly enough, I mean, like last end of last week, Palmmccartney put out anew record. As you know, I'm a huge fan and it's called Palmcartney three and Ithink it's good. I've only had one listen usually takes me about threelistens to figure out what I think about a record, but so far as a lot of good stuff andthere's a lot of odd stuff, like very you, know, kind of a departure fromfrom the normal stuff. And that's that's good. I think you know, and thenPeter Jackson announced today that he has a beetle documentary coming out. Itwas supposed to be out I two thousand and twenty, but because of Covid it'sbeen set back a little bit, but he released this. I don't know he calls ita montage, it's not a trailer, it's not a preview, so it's sort of the montage,but apparently it's called the Beatles get back, but apparently he has fiftysix hours of unseen beetles footage. So it's it's amazing just go online andwatch the montage, because it's even that is just incredible. I don't knowhow they keep coming up with new stuff, but this band just lives on and on andon and and I'm very happy well it's the week of Christmas and it's been a toughyear, so in honor o the holidays and because last week we started talkingabout working with spouses, and I thought I would do a fun episodefeaturing my wife after much begging and pleading she agreed to be on mylittle podcast and I'm very grateful. She's been putting up with my musicianlifestyle for almost fourteen years now, and I think she brings an importantperspective to the theme of this podcast. We also have some huge news toannounce and she agreed to give me the scoop so you're going to hear it here.First, that's all I can say she currently works as a talent manager forher brother Lucas Grayville, who was featured on episode number five, butbefore that she was a personal assistant for another high schoolmusical actress, Moni Coleman, she's, beautiful she's, hilarious, she's,incredible and she's. All Mine and you're also going to get to hear hersing. So I hope you enjoy my conversation with autumn Graybil, so we're on the show, because we've gota huge announcement to make to the world yeah. I know it's very nervous.Wevwe've told you ou know our friends. This is not for them, but we haven'treally told the world yet so it's kind of exciting yeah, I think, are you ready? Should we say togethersure one two three were Prahey, it's so exciting. Yes, it doesn't feel that waywithout an audience. Yeah. That's really, but no, noreaction, we've been trying for a minute and were not a long long time, but you knowit's hard when I'm on the road all the time. So this covid thing is actuallybenefited us in certain ways. Yes, it took a pandemic to get us home long enough, so I'm excited neverhad a kid before we're having a baby boy in March. Well, it's kind of now ornever yeah I mean you're. Getting really old. IMIT is true. My clock isticken yeah. I just turned thirty nine. You just turned forty nine. Yes, I justturned really old, almost really old, well and yeah. So we're, but this ispretty dypicalt La I feel like I was kind of freaking out for a while aboutmy gosh, I'm almost fifty I'm Hav my first kid, but then, like that's justkind of the La thing we all wait a...

...while so we're riin lucky you, I well women to you too. There's lots ofwomen at your age having a baby. Yes and thankfully we were able to do itnaturally, but o knows we could have waited too longand for a second I thought. Maybe we had so yeah yeah. I was just startingto doubt and then I let it go and I was like Klet it. Goo antit happened and Istill wasn't convinced o took you kept saying: You're pregnant D, I'm like noI'm just late and we're totally excited it's weirdthat I don't have a job right now can't work. Are you a little nurouse it'sfunny, because I feel like we planned everything out right, we'll get a houseget a dog, have jobs and have you know a space for a kid andthen now yeah? We we did everything rightand then e. We are and Herrey freaking out a little bit, not so much yet, butit it's not exactly h the perfect situation, but it's been nice o havingall this time off at the same time and being able to be here while you'repregnant, because if I had been on the road this whole time, it would havebeen a different experience for sure and we've never spent this much timetogether, not really and surprising, an we're, not tired ofeach other. It seems like at least I'm not tired of you. No, it's actuallybeen really great. It's very strange, well, a lot of the reasons I thought itwould be really cool to have you on besides to talk about the baby and justmake the anouncement is because you know you've been now with a musicianfor almost fourteen years, and that is a thing you know like the whole,there's a there's, a certain thing to dating musician or a creative type, andI thought that maybe we could talk about that. A little bit, yeah sure Iyo do you enjoy it. It's definitely not what I wanted formy life. Isn't it everything you've alwaysdreamed of yeah. You know, I think you guys get abad reputation. It wasn't something that, like I, was hoping and ever thoughtthat I would be with a musician, but it's surprisingly has been the bestdecision ever which actually mean that sowe Ar Ese yeah. I mean it's always exciting. You know, I am a fan of money, so I would say it kind of comes and goes it's it's a yeah. It flutuates there's! Never youdon't have like an IRA, but no it's been really great. You're afan of music. I mean you did music growing up hate it. I didn't say my music, Oh okay, yeah. I thought I was musical until Imet you, but I fee, like you had fun at first atleast re like for the first year you came toevery Gig you could, which I think is pretty typical. I came to way more thanjust a year. Okay, I would say the first five years I was solidly comingto like every Gig. You had yeah yeah, no way, th that it was five years, but it was I'll give me a year and a half.Maybe Oh, my gosh, I go I I mean still come to like important ones, but I'msaying in the beginning, you were like at every bar ig and I was playing a lotof bargaing oning first Mene, because we had just come up to her and then Igo home and I do barcakes. You know yeah for sure. No, it was awesomewatching you to your thing and being able to do that and I'm on the road alot and is that? Does that bother you or are you? You seem okay with it butdi. Did you ever think that you were going to be alone this much in yourlife, not counting the last nine months right? Well, that's! Well, since you've been working for Dwight,it's been amazing because you guys don't go out for a long periods of timelike the longest. I think you were gone was two weeks yeah and that felt hardat the time which is such a joke. When you were gone for two months at a timeyeah leading up to that, I think it's what makes a happymarriage because it keeps it fun and excitingand missing you and and also just fun, because I get to go visit. I never thought I would. I didn't evenknow. Azerbijan was a country and didn't ever expect to spendThanksgiving alone in an airport of Rushup in Moscow like come on yeah, sothat was a Kicko Mont Sui toor. I was out for...

...six weeks and you came out in themiddle of the Tark, as my mom was living an Azerbyjan. Coincidentally,she was the country director for the Peace Corps there, and so I'm likelet's meet there, and I think we literally saw each other for twentyfour hours yeah it was, I think it was actually less. I think we saw eachother for twenty three hours. It took me twenty four hours to get theretraveling, because I had to connect in Moscow and it was over Thanksgiving. SoI spent Thanksgiving in the Moscow airport alone by yourself yeah, but it was awesome. I meanwat story,like that's the coolest thing ever so it was a trip like well, first of all,th the hotel that I have en to stay in. They were still pulling like plasticoff the TV. It only been open. Three weeks was a higets huge overlook in thelittle Babit's pretty Baku aser Byjon, so that was kind of amazing, but it was an interesting trip. I justremember touching the cab driver's shoulder andyour mom being like. No, no, no, you can't touch. You can't touch men herelike Muslim country, yeah, yeah, lots of rules and- and you arethe most rebellious person I've ever met in my life and if you say, can'ttouch a man in this country. You're just GOINGTA want to touch all the mansyeah, but likily. We didn't end up in jail.Barno well, and I just thought it was so strange that there are. You know youcouldn't even go into some of the cafes. They had Internet cafes and womenweren't allowed to go in, and I just blew my mind y Gettin, very sheltered, but very cool experience, and that wasjust I mean. That's one of the hundreds of stories that experiences a we've gottenHav, but how was I lat that night I played pretty tod the right. I think Islept during the show right I lork out from Thi tage you're dead, asleep inthe okagos music was so soothing. That'svery true. Ver Soothing show great to sleep to after twenty five hours oftravel or whatever it was yeah shatlag right wha. So, what's going to happenwhen our little boy gets to be about six years old, seven years old, eightyears old, I'm starting to play music, nine years old, ten years old, elevenhe goes. I want to be a musician, no re you going to be down with that. Okay! Well, I've thought about this alittle bit and obviously I want him to play aninstrument I mean my parents made me play piano for two years, so I at least want him to have aknowledge of music play. An instrument be a well rounded kid and he's going to have to be real good.If Ho wants to be musician so- and I think you'll take care of that. As faras like making sure that he's showing him how hard and how much work it'sgoing to have to be, and if he's willing to do all of that, go throughall this test and he's still into it than sure I guess no Ecause, I alwayskind of joke, like Oh you, like music, used to be a music attorney, Ohyou likefootball, great bea, sports attorney yeah, but but I don't know, I feel like he'llhave an advantage, especially if we stay in La bcause it'll be in the right town, andI mean do you want him to be a musicial? I mean I don't know th the I thinkabout it lately and I think well, I do kind of know a little bit about thebusiness. I won't won't be you know I'll, be there to guide him in a waythat you know my parents were supportive, but they didn't know how tomanage a music career or how o you know, especially from Denver Colorado. Thereisn't an industry, so I don't know growing up in La when it's all around.If he's got the talent- and I would be able to help him- I suppose I wouldn'tsay no- I mean I think they'l athey'll always be music and if you're skilledenough, you can find a way to make a living okay. So what would you wantthem to be thereh which instrument? Oh maybe I mean probably piano. I feellike Keyboardis. You know maybe I'll ask the next keyboardes that's on, butI feel like they have the biggest advantage in the future, because you can pretty much play any instrumentif you can play the creek keyboards as far as like samples and you've got awhole band in your keyboard. You know and- and I also think, there's a lot ofjobs if you're really good. So you should definitely have thoseskills. It's a lot quieter than drums to man, boy is it, but at the same timebase everyone needs a base player. So it's not a bad, not a bad career movefor me. I didn't necessarily choose it, because I loved the base right yeah. Ichose it because I needed a job and...

...there were lots of opportunities yeah.I mean that just seems so far in the future to even think about what our kidwould be. I mean I'm just wanting him to come out right. Think about his profession as like. Ohmy gosh. We have eighteen years to get through before that, but I hopethat he can be somewhat talented and want and joy music, but I definitely mnot one of those were like my kids going to be the president or yeah. Ijust want him to grow up to be a decent human being and like us at the end ofit. That's it's pretty. I have low stander loftygoals, it's hard to say too, because you don'tknow who's going to be. I have no idea what to expect and what kind ofpersonality hes going to have, and so we're not going to be the parents thatare training him to play golf at three years old or no or a violin or whatever.No definitely, not, I don't think so. Now I seeyou let the kid grow figureout what he wants to be Yeah Welle'll, be there to guide yeah, but I do hopethat he has something because I don't know I mean I can't relate to peoplethat don't because I've since I was born, I wanted to be a musician. Inever really wasn't necessarily a choice. I just always was aimed in thisdirection and very driven and self motivated and whatever- and I don'tknow I think back- and I am glad that I had that because it got me througheverything you know. I think it's a lot harder. Sometimes I fantasize, you knowgrass is always greeter fantasized about it. Wayn, wouldn't it be great.If I just didn't know what I was going to do and I could just do whatever cameup. No, it's way worse. I think I never knew what I was going to do.Thought I'd, be a teacher nurse or something right. I always knew I'd be amom yeahbut. I knew I wanted to wait aslong as possible and live my life and do everything fun first, so I feel like. I definitely did yeah yeah,that's it. I have no regrets on waiting this long as long as he comes out. Okayand everthing great. I have no graduating this long. I think it wasright for us and it was good to get a lot of stuff out of our system. First,Oh yeah, traveling the world and yeah crazy times, yeah, and I feel like forme too, is so driven for so long in career career, Carree, career careerand you, but now I'm just like. Well, you know I'veaccomplished quite a bit and if I it's over, which were all sort of having toface right now, anyways like what, if it is over, would hif it never getsback normal. You know, I think, if that's the case, I feel prettysatisfied. Looking back me like well, I pretty much did everything I wanted todo so t's. Let's raise a kid now, a yeah, be parents and and think aboutfamily yeah. I think it's a getting a lot harder to have the energy to toyeah, keep up with crazy lifestyle, so yeah, that's for sure. So we met on thehigh school musical concert, tour, which was kind of a huge moment forboth of our lives, really because for me that was like kind of my first big huge, I mean I'd,been out with Kacomat Sui and stuff and that's a certain type of Gig, and thatwas a big huge thing when I got that as well, but this was ricky minor, it wasthe MD, you know Matt Rody Ha Laura. This is amazing band and we're playingfor fifteenzend people in high school musical itself is just it's a worldwide. It's not quite this is right is, is the first movie at come out? It wasa huge success. It was before the second movie come out and I think whenthe second movie came out, that was when it was like worldwide hugecraziness, but so we're right right on the cusp of it and but it at any ratein the United States. It's phenomenal and Werthe like ten semi trucks orsomething yeah. I think it was. It was ten semis and eleven buses like fullproduction. You know Piro. I remember like joking with the pyroGuy. One time was like one night: it went off and I kind of felt some heatin my face. This is why I learned that you don't joke with Pyro guys, becauseI went out to catering or something I was like man you're trying to bow myface off and he was like what is there a problem? What I mean he freaked out,he was like dude w. We cannot have people blowing up. You know like he wasso serious, I'm like O, Okay Yeah. No, it's fine! That's fine! But anywaysenough about me, but I, but I think for you as well. You had just moved out toLa Yeah I'd. Only even livingother blowin up had only been living INI fora year, a little over a year wow and...

...getting out of a serious relationshipat the time right, sound like I'm going on the road. I, like your locks, I'mgoint to kiss this many boys as I can that's what it means to you: Rock Star and youwere working for Mony Coleman,who had just gotten off of dancing with the stars to crazy whirlwind to fourthplace right. Think so. Yeah she did good. Its a big star hit was asom. Iwas twenty five and, and you just moved from a small town I mean there's mostfelt like you were suddenly in a movie yeah. Itwas awesome because we were in a different city every night, a differenthotel, a lot of Nice hotels and really cool perks. Like I rememberthinking, it was so awesome that we had a list that we could fill out on thebus and put anything we wanted on there and then next night it would show upand it would be stocked on the bus. Your guys list os way different than Io El. Yes, we had a list. No I'm just saying you guys put you know, Yager toKila woal an ours is like ice cream cookado that was so cool yeah. Iremember when we ere rehearsing like the band because we're all older, likeI was thirty five and some of the bands are older. Some ofthe man was younger, but we're all in that range and we're like we're ONADisney toer like can we drink and we're all like band people? You know like wedrink, you know and then the tour manager kind of Sits S. all down islike well, first, he sits everybody downhe's like no drinking. This is ' nodrinking toher. Then he has a private meeting with the band and says: Okay,you guys are cool. You know, Yo can have alcohol in the bus or whatever.But if I see one kid coming off your bus, drunk it's going to be all over sowee was like. Okay, thank God. You know, and I drank like a year in college andthen I stopped and then I have never drink si like no. I started drinking onthat tour yeah. What made it so cool? I think itwas. There were so many of us with between the dancers and the boys, and my brother was there andthe band just felt like a huge, happy family that were just traveling in thelong you know traveling together it was great yeah and then, of course,watching the show I mean I watched my gosh. You like what I watch. I prettymuch watched it almost every show, and so I went from not ever seeing a realconcert in my opinion well to having you know the all access pass andwatching on the side. frome stage to you know and all the screaming childrenI was, it was pretty crazy and the show wasactually good. I mean for th for a disny thing. It was really. I wasreally good. I enjoyed it and, of course we got to know each other, andthat was fun. We did. It was quite a love story. Well, at first I mean there's no way. I was going todate because you were smarter at thebeginning of the tour. This is before drinking ano. You know you were likeyou came out with everything kind of on the table. You were divorced Andeat. I knew you didn't, have a savingsaccount. You didn't you weren't a homeowner l,all the things that I thought I really needed and wanted and onpaper I lookdhorrible yeah paper, but by the time we were, I don't know after hanging outnight after night it was just like think we became ohino friends, but itwas exciting and fun. Why do you think we hit it off so? Well, I don't knowyou had a sort of cynicaldness to you that that attracted me that was attractive to me, because youknow you. You called yourself a realist which you tend to do sometimes still,but I don't know about that, but lit you're and I wouldn't say: There's just a jaded, cynical kind ofside to you that matches my jaded cynical side and you're. In the midstof all this stuff. You were in this Disney bubble, where eeren thought thatthey were amazing all the time child actors quote unquote, I mean theyrekind of most of he ere older at that point. But you know it's a certain typeof bubble. Where there's a lot of how do you say it delicately, but a lotof yes, people and there'it's, not necessarily attached to reality, yeah.We were all out at a bar one night and...

I think Lubas and I got an argumentabout something something stupid and I just needed to like vent to someonethat would understand and and that's hard to find in that camp, because youknow everyone is special and amazing. So you can, you know, talk to the artist in aspecial way, and so I think I just vented you and you listened and weresupportive and you were genures younger to me than me as well. So thirty, fiveto twenty five. I was a little freaked out for a while about the age youshould have been. I loive back now. I like this is what you to day musician.What were you doing with the twenty five year? Oldgood? I didn'tnecessarily I didn't plan it. That's for sure, but any time I was aroundyour parents, I was just like, Oh my God. What must they think of me? Well,no, I just mean that, like I wasn't ant, it wasn't like really hitting on you.You know itwas, like this sort of like I said. Its sort of happened naturallyis sort of happened organically and it took along. It took a minute for me tojust feel it out. Nd like okay, I mean thefirst time I met your mom, didn't go well, but util it didn't go on, but who was I except for this weirdittledude on the bands and we wl get along smashingly now, but, yes, my momloves you. So do you think that, having met me on tour now, when I'm out,do you think that' gives you an advantage like when I'm away and you'reat home? You pretty much know what it looks like where I'm at you know what Imean. You know what the Dressirg Room, where the locker room and an arenalooks like you've, come to other gigs with like Kiko Monsui and stuff, whichis maybe lesser scale, but knowing firsthand what the road lookslike. Do you think that that makes it easier? Oh for sure, I feel like I'mway more understanding, because I mean you're really good about callingme, for example, like you're, really good about checking in and at the endof the night, like calling me after a Gig and all of that, but like waybetter than I would be, because I know how exciting it is whenyou're traveling and you're out there and Adrenaline, and all that I feellike yeah. I think it was a huge advantage to get to experience that andknow what your life is a little bit like. I mean I'm, obviously not onstage doing any of that, but I have a lot more respect for it and in when Icomplain. Oh Yeah, you don't have the Bible like what are you talking aboutyour Pleasein, a readin tonight you know Jus, like yeah. I know I've beenthere. You know yeah, I know what I's like to live out of a suitcase, an knowwhat it's like to be in a different city every day and bus rules and havingto be live with people in that clote. You know you have to it's all aboutlike getting along with everyone and right and you'resandit as much as fun as itis. It's also like you suing the same people every day all day you run out ofthings to talk about, and it is then you get a day off and you you just tryto go the mall, an in the town that you're in and you're rening everybodyand trying to go to a restaurant, and you make reservations this chool spotand o there's eight people from the crew there or whatever, like yeah,there's a yeah, didn't we. We tried well the end of Corbans tour. We werein Puerto Rico right, so we wanted to have a vacationat the end because it was right- and that was just like we can't get awaylike everyone decides to have a vacation at the end. So Er Romantic. Iguess we're still working yeah so when I'm out n the road- and you know that there's just so many girls and just every night,just coming aut just throwing their bros rowing their brawse at me and,like you know, how do you feel about that? I think it's Hot Thas is why we get along. This is whywe've been married. So No, I mean obviously there h's beentimes when I'm like, but I see it as part of the job. No, that's not true. Let's see! Firstof all I mean: Are you really getting girls? Okay, correctketing come on just go with the Fili Ting oflike you know, if I were the person, no, I think there's been times like. Ithink it's a lot ther'sthere's been times because again I've been that girl,because I was on tour and I know what I cared or didn't care about andRighall of that. So so yeah you worry about US onthilse. I mean not anymore. Why you come now and there is apantemic. You don't really have a chop. Well, that's true, but...

...it, but when I'm working currently withWhit, Yocam, there's there's no girls on that tour. So it's yeah. It's probably put your minded Ese. Well, Ialso know I pretty I mean I trust you Oso. I've got you rigt. where I wantyou, I think I don't trust the girls no was kidding eyeah, but it's also interesting something that happened like when I got the Dwight Gig. Is that you don't know anybody on the dighttour and kind of every tour? Previous to that that I've known you, you havebeen really close because we went because I went from high school musicalto corven blue, and that was the next three years of my life touring with himyou're good friends with him. You know, he's a high school musical actor, so kithe same crew and Cako even came to our wedding, exactly Kays, really goodfriends- and you got you know, then we get to dight where we're out a lot, andyou don't know anybody yeah, that's that was an adjustment yeah. I thinkthat was the biggest challenge Wev got in awhile, just because I felt a little bit left out, and so that was harder to notreally know exactly who you're talking about when you're saying like band guysand you're talking about the crew guys- and I don't know, you're saying their names, but I don'treally have face match, and so it's harder to relate to that. But Ist like in any relationship, Imean, makes you stronger and you have to communicate and trust each other,and we just had to figure out that. That's what itwas right, because I don, I don't think it took me a minute to figure out why Iwas feeling weird about it and that's what it yeah came down to like. Oh, Ijust don't really know your life with these guys and you're gone so much yeah,so it feels like. Oh, you have this whole their life without me right andthat that can be hard. Thank it Tu. She only does like weekends, for the MustPont Yeahi'm kind of home every week yeah. So it's thank goodness you're notgoing on tour for months at a time right, that's really what it Yia,because the corbon thing too, like I remember, we were out for almost threemonths, the first summer for like two summers: Ind Rou. I was out for overthree months now, ithink about it yeah yeah. We did right into September. Well,it's all about being able to adapt. I mean it's constantly changing, so youhave to have to adapt the situation and talk itthrough and figure out what you need and be okay with that. Sometimes I mean forthe last ten years. I've gotten a new GIG kit of every two and a half yearsor so, and life changes rapidly and life changes immediately, but itchanges immediately often which keeps it exciting. So never you know boring,which is awesome. I love that yeah and it keeps US working. I mean I feel,like our relationship has gotten easier. Yeah as time goes on, because we workthrough these things and then it's like. Oh, I know you so much better. So right,good talk, good talk, I feel like wo need a therapist here. Allte Timei have to confess something Ilove books, but I don't love reading and it's been something that I'vewrestled with. Since I was a kid you know I can read, I have red books butthey're very time consuming, and I've spent most of my time trying to build amusic career it which takes a lot of time. But one thing I definitely do alot of is drive in La traffic on my way to a GIG and there's a solution thatcombines those two situations and it's called Audiblecom Ottol has thousandsof audio book titles and you can listen offline anywhere anytime. The APP isfree and can be installed on all smartphones and tablets, and they havejust a ton of music. Related titles, like all you need to know about themusic business by Donald, is passman how music works by David, Byrn or musicproduction secrets by Calvin Carter, and you can get a free, thirty daytrial right now, if you visit, audible, trialcom dive Bar Rockstar, that'saudible, trialcom, dive Bar rock star, I'd like to take a second to thank youfor listening to the divebar rocks our podcast as a new podcast, getting theword out as a vital part of what it takes to keep the show on the road for off the road has the current case.Maybe if you would like to support the podcast all you got to do subscribewherever you listen, and if you have an extra minute or two pleese leave areview, you can also share and follow the podcast onyour social media, APPs, okay enough begging, I hope you'rehaving fun and once again thank you for...

...listening. So you love Christmas music, yeah andwhen we first got together for a while, because maybe we're justtoo lazy to make Christmas cards, I don't know- maybe I was I always am,but so we did some Christmas songs every year. Instead of Christmas cardsand they're, actually all on Youtube. That's Automan! Eric is the channel.One word don't tell Anywaye. I know I don't know that you want to go, listento them, but I don't know. Maybe you do someon were great. We did it for fun,did it for our family? It was just something like. Oh, we have access to astudio and you wanted to produce and yeah. It was like a you want, O singyeah at the time I still like seiing before working with Eric Faynes right,I like to sing. I have ben known in some circles as the dream. crusher. Yes.Well, I never heard myself sing. Andthou really. I mean that's a hugemoment in one's life. The first time hearing yourself back yeah right, yeah,it's terrifying, horrifying h and you don't realize how how differentyou actually sound like yesh. What you hear in your head is so different thanwhat encourage every single person to at least hear themselves once whenyou're recording. Now that everybody has phones, theyprobably do you have answering machine o know, but singing is differenti'sdifferent. It's very different. Yea especially I mean I thought I didn't. Inever thought I was a good singer, but I didn't think I was horrible, butother people thought you ere egoo tinge. Well, no I just was raised singing all the time. My family, wewere always singing in church. I was the lead in my high school musical. I was funnyaln the sound of Music Yeah.No, no! No! No music, man Yeah! I wasmarrying yeah, a e'Si gaibrarian yeah so and I yeah so I was in musicals andI saying in church I sining in college.Even I was like in the choir, and so I liked singing. I did it all my lifeyeah that and you met a guy who havs hat a studio. I can be a singer yeah and I was likeman I'd love to mess up some Christmas songs and make crazy arrangements andyeah. So it was a lot of fun. It was just very much like a learningexperience to working together. It's tricky working with the spouse in thatsituation, especially someone who's, like kind of doing it for fun versus someonewho's used to being in the studio, not doing it for fun and yeah. You wantedme to be good and, like you wanted me to be right, no, I didn't no. I wanted you to justdo something. I like okay, sing and you're like whatdo you want me to Sing Thi Song? I don't know I lik play itfor me. First, you know like, as I'm teing clear to the acquired teacher,Playo pards will have a sectional exactly play the part I'll repeat: it'sgoing to be great yeah and I'm like it's so walking in a winter wonderland. Youknow the song just sing it. I know, but your music behind it wasn't the same. Alot of thativer drew that is very true and then the rhythms and stuff. I justwanted you to be like okay, well, you know yea tap it out for me, you know Idon't know hold yourhand. I wanted Tou hold my hand through it. I wanted youto make it fun right and you were more serious about okay. Do it again, it'scool like just and I'm like. I don't want to havea bad take I want to. I want to do it right right, so that was our firstthing was learning yeah each other on that because you're like it's, not abig ddeal like who cares like you're in the studio. It's all about the backyad.Now is the time to have bad takes Youl get through a thousand bad takes, andthen you get the great one yeah, and I didn't understand that I'm like, if I'mnot getting it after the third take it's over were do so. That was frustrating a lot of times,but we got through it and I'm really hears later yeah. I finallystopped doing it and that it way better noi mean how many songs do we have, Ithink, there's like thirteen of themond and we have a whole record yeah. That'sthat's pretty good yeah there's some cool stuff. They got better as we likestarted well, once we've figured each other out a little bit more and yourealized. I just want you to play tha like I don't want to sound bad and haveit recorded like just play the part for me. Let me learn it. Then we record ityeah and yeah. I don't like making sate...

O on or producing an engineering, soI'm just like. I want every take of possible, so I have lots of options andwhat, if you got that one word right on that, take you didn't like I can usethat word. I don't think you realized that much about the studio stuff eitheryeah. It was on Nou Yo, just like a race that that was awful like o yeah,but Tho was really good. No a no thate Diereo see you. You would make me getit right because you be like all right. Well, that one was just a little pitchy,but everything else is good and I'm like well, then can't you just cut thattogether or can't you just like you know, make this yeah. I mean yes, but there's also otherthings. I'm listening for and yeah see we're fighting already. Yiknow just thinking about thinking about it come Cris Muimeim O. Well, I will say that it was shocked metoday, as I was listening through that your version of rocking around theChristmas tree, which is basically you it's a kind of your solo piece likethere's someting that I seen the most a lot of them. Most of them are do ets,but there's one at like I've, mainly seeing e one that you mainly sying rockrunder, is the winner. As far as views goes, what forty seven hundred eightyone views of that the rest of them are like three. Four hundred some reasonthis one is a hit. I think your ahead is that qualify as vibrule. I don'tknow, definitely not and that's ridiculous, maybe once you get to fivehsand, then then you'l be famous. I don't know its. Probably just becausepeople like that song, and so that's just the most search song and you souphenomenal- I don't mean US- I just mean like someone- is just putting rockaround rocking around the Christmas tree and then it comes up and they well.He ware these guys. So you think they like that song versus baby it's coldoutside. We did a great rendition of the of the Rabi Song. It's not a rapesong, that's so ridiculous! I don't know I'm staying out of it. Yeah youdon't want to get political on hour show, but that's ridiculous. Well, wedid it and I thought it was great and I you know what honestly I'd never heardthat song before you brought it up to me. Isn't that Weird Thatis Itas a jazznumber and like it wasn't a part of my growing up Christmas? You know REPTAC.I didn't know that. I think that future, the Great Noricoowling on keyboard yea, who has another podcast UPISLODE Weland,we've also featured jecking joiner on on one sone. I can't remember the songright this second, but it's great and Kata Want Suno was a guitar players.He's amazing, smooth jezf star now yeah the parks of having musician friends.You get all of your buthy's time he's just playon my my crazy family song,yeah yeah. We had yeah, I good good time. ound Christmas Tree Anisower, you cansee evercom Tri walking around Christmas tree will have Omoa Cayouawhen you iockin around the Christmas tree, Hahay everyone dancing neverl in the newobaway, but also I learned in that time that Iwasn't a singer. Ahawhich is good. I...

...think I needed to have some selfreflectionand realize that, just because I sang in a small town and was inquired thatthat doesn't make me a singer and anyway that's good. It was good yeah. Imean it' o led a lot about myself. God about you, Goda Yeah Yeah. I would hireso we'd, probablyrecommend that as therapy for people just try to make a Christmas recordjust try to sing together couples of sing together break up. Somehow we overcame. I also reallyliked our a version of Maliki Liki Makka, because on the on the youtubes Iput up a bunch of, we had just gone to Hawaii that year and ha this amazingtrip and so on Youtube. I have pictures from the trip as like a collage for thevideo. We are super cheesy that year ere like Oh, I went towayor to Meliclly,Maa and running out of it our slide show of our vacation up yeah. I wasyeah, it was cheesy and amazing hen. We were running out of secular Christmassongs, but anyway it was a lot of fun though,and I really enjoy it, we should get back to it. Oh we're going to have ababy now, so we're koning crying in the background. How many years to I can get this kidsinging Elei, my guys, the Thingo sayreadingTEOTHELANNOHRSMAHMYAA MSO as a person married to a musician one of the thingsthat you used to do, and we have some different circumstances that thathappen now, but for years, every GIG that I had to flyout on you used to get the privilege of takingyou to the airport. Oh Yeah. It was that really fun for youyeah, I loved it, for I am taking you to lax te two hourtrip, sometimes yeah when you would come back at Shi thirtyrush hour yeah, Oh man, yeah. I mean I thoughtabout opening my own shuttle service for just musicians. Just I'm going. I mean there were times Ilike go and two times an one day like it is crazy, but I mean mainly becauseyou didn't want to me to pay for parking, so it was to save money. Well,always to save money. That is the truth. I know O la xor Burbank. What did? Whatdid you prefer? Oh, my Gosh Burbank is amazing know. Wasn't it waslike? Oh, it's Bervink like it was the the most joyous moments when I'd lookat the schedule, like guess what we're flying out of birbank yeah at the timewas like seven minutes from our house versus La x, which obviously, like yousaid just it, can take two hours yeah well, I have to say that it was alwaysa an amazing joy to come back from, especially like I was flanksinternationally, a lot with Kaco and it come back after I don't know eighteenthirty hours of flying sometimes and to be able to get picked up by my awesome,beautiful girlfriend's, Lah wife now was awesome. So I thank you an I wantto thank you in public in front of all five of my listeners, yeah see Thisupport, also that you have to g. You know it's like. Not only are you comingto the shows and cheering and then you're and listening to your songs andgiving a vice and you'R, also picking up from the airport yeah at's a lot of work, yeah well, thebottom line is, I have so much appreciation for you and for all thethings that you do for me and all the you know. I know that it's not easy tobe a bandwife to be a musician wife, and I love you so much and I'm so proudof us that we're having a baby and you...

...look phenomenal. I wish I you knowwe'll- have to take a picture for the podcast or something and but- and I soappreciate you coming on and letting me torture you for a couple hours here.That will probably turn into about forty minutes. Oh my God been rough, but well that's very nice of you and it'snot that hard, actually, because you're, a great guy and you make it easy. Oh well, thanks forcoming on you're welcome check, please so who has an answering machine anymore?I don't know where that came from guess, I'm so old. I was, I meant your messageon your phone. When someone calls does anybody even call anymore? I don't. Irarely pick up the phone, I'm going to tell you the truth of you. If you wantto get a hold of me text me, it's just the best way. I thought it wasinteresting when she talked about how I have a whole other life without her andthe truth is we do when we're musicians and we have a whole family. That's onthe road and it's a very tricky thing to navigate and to keep balance with.You know, but I do call often- and we check in often you know, probablynumerous times in the day, unless there's some crazy schedule, whichwould prevent that which there is at times especially when you're travelinginternationally, but somehow we make it work and but I think again, just likeanything else, just communication is so important and bus rules. She mentionsthe bus rules and I think that's a very interesting topic because I'm sureeveryone has their own, but I think there's a there's a couple few thatmaybe there are there's. Definitely one the golden rule of the bus, nodeficating on the bus. For obvious reasons, you know the theplumming system on a tour bus is a fragile situation and no one wants tosmell your stuff, so just find a place in the arena or in the venue. Justdon't do it on the bus. I also think you have to keep in mind that we alllive in the bus, it's our home, so you can't just invite your random folks onthe bus without a sort of an announcement or asking some. You knowasking the people around you, because it's you know if I'm in my underwear II don't know that I want to see your grandma on the bus. You know just justreach out say: Do you mind? Let me know something's happening, and maybe this is just one of my petpeeves but keep the doors to the bunk area closed,because people can be napping at any time of the day. You know a lot oftimes you get to the venue in the afternoon because you have to check outof the hotel and you know. Maybe I want to take a nap and people yelling in the Front Lounge forthose of you that don't understand how most buses work like if you're just ona band, bus or a crewbus, you have a front lounge, which has a TV and akitchen and the refrigerator and usually the bathroom. Then you have thecenter section, which would have either twelve bunks or eight bunks if they have condo bunk.Sometimes if you, if you have a smaller unit and you're allowed to have theCODO bunks, it's a lot more space that you get and then in the back, you havethe back lounge, which is generally another TV. Another cooler lots of guys like set up video gamesand Thatd, be the video game room or set up a stereo and play music at nightor whatever, but the bunks are in the middle. So youknow respect the bunk area. That's all so I don't know I'm sure AL everybodyhas their pet peeves and their bus rules. So man, you know what let's juststart a thing: just email me, your bust roles and your bus, pet peeves andwe'll just start a list so that everybody convented a little, becauseyou know it's tricky on the Road Kaco Motsui is who we ere referring to andif you've listened to thi show. You know that I was twelve years, hermusical director, so lots of history. There, speaking ofKaco, jacking joiner, was her sex player for years. He's also featured onepisode, seven of this podcast and he was playing saxophone on Mele Keliki,maca and Mony Coleman took fourth place on the third season of dancing with thestars. So I hope you guys have a really married Christmas and or you knowwhatever holiday, you celebrate happy holidays, theres, there's a lot of them.So I'm going to end with another Christmas song from our fabulousGrabiel banes Christmas collection, and this one is my particular favorite.It's actually the first one we did, but I don't know I was kind of proud of theorchestration on this one and my arrangement, as well as all the singingmy wife saying beautifully. So I hope you enjoy it and I hope you had a greattime...

Ha haw. The Bell. Sweet silver bellsall seem to say: Throu Kis away, PRINC MISSUS here bringinin go yeer to Younlittlemegeter ot. Doing Don ta is the Sojooseem to you. Wod, a goot Yo fromeverywhere Il ehow. They found waising the sound oing Dal teling it Cai Arin,Wilcrima, Itot Jopto to everyon asing, the soundarndownalyittjoyfultoto every home, almy time. Wow, you've made it to the end, I'mhoping it's because you completely enjoyed yourself and are now filledwith knowledge and inspiration to move forward with your dreams. If that isthe case, and you would like to Sta nformed of new episodes live events andGeneral News, please go to dive Bar rockstarcom and sign up for themalinist. If you have any questions, comments, corrections or complaintsabout anything you hear on the show. Please email me at Fan mail at dive BarRock Starcom, and you may even end up on the show we at the dive Bar RockStar podcast with all of our hearts. Thank you for listening and remember.It's all about dreams.

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